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"I felt God speak to me and say, 'if you'll reach people that nobody wants, then I will give you people that everybody wants.'"

Tommy Barnett is the co-Pastor of Phoenix First and the Founder of the Los Angeles Dream Center. Since his arrival at Phoenix First in 1979, the church has grown to over 20,000 in attendance. In recent years, Tommy has focused on speaking at conferences around the world and writing books. In this interview you'll hear Tommy talk about the Church's need to be revolutionary as opposed to just relevant. Tommy goes into depth about leadership, technology, the importance of the global church, the changing role of the pastor, challenges of collaboration, and his encouragement to pastors.