"The age of pastor as motivational speaker is done...In many churches today the experience is not much different than going to the mall. There's no mystery, there's no powerful or compelling experience, and I think people are hungry to really be taught serious stuff about the Bible."

Phil Cooke is the founder of Cooke Pictures. Phil has produced media programming in over 50 countries, authored several books, spoke at international conferences, and has consulted countless churches and Christian films throughout the years. In this interview Phil discusses Christian labeling, media in the Church, creative freedom, and raising the bar of quality in Christian entertainment.