Jack Debartolo III
A Conversation With
Jack Debartolo 3
Architect
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A Conversation With
Jack Debartolo 3

A Conversation With Jack DeBartolo III

"Pastors are starting to realize, 'I've just built a building for X-million-dollars, I'm paying the environmental costs, the air-conditioning, the electricity, the development of the site, not to mention the parking lot, and [our church] is using it maybe 10% of the available time.'"

Jack DeBartolo 3, AIA is the Principal Architect for DeBartolo Architects, where he has extensive experience designing churches, institutions, educational facilities and residential housing. He also serves as a professor at Arizona State University's graduate architectural program. In this interview Jack talks about genuine architecture, the relationship between architecture and the Church, adaptive reuse in church buildings, collaboration with church buildings, competition in the Church, sharing ideas, and the shift from mega church to community. You won't want to miss Jack's thoughtful and relevant insights.
Tommy Barnett
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Tommy Barnett
Pastor
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Tommy Barnett

A Conversation With Tommy Barnett

"I felt God speak to me and say, 'if you'll reach people that nobody wants, then I will give you people that everybody wants.'"

Tommy Barnett is the co-Pastor of Phoenix First and the Founder of the Los Angeles Dream Center. Since his arrival at Phoenix First in 1979, the church has grown to over 20,000 in attendance. In recent years, Tommy has focused on speaking at conferences around the world and writing books. In this interview you'll hear Tommy talk about the Church's need to be revolutionary as opposed to just relevant. Tommy goes into depth about leadership, technology, the importance of the global church, the changing role of the pastor, challenges of collaboration, and his encouragement to pastors.

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